14:02 < dfk> there is music on the stream audio!
14:03 < lle> can you kill the music on the web stream?
14:03 < ripe259> thanks, music off
14:03 < amanda_ncc> how's the audio sound?
14:03 < dfk> ok
14:04 < amanda_ncc> thx
14:04 < ripe259> great, thanks Amanda
14:08 < Johan_RIPENCC> Greg Hankins is starting his presentation about Ethernet Speed trends
14:09 -!- mdav1 is now known as marco-nl
14:31 < Johan_RIPENCC> Greg Hankins has finished his presentation and is asking for questions now
14:34 -!- nick-LON is now known as nick-AMS
14:38 < Johan_RIPENCC> The presentation has ended
14:39 < Johan_RIPENCC> Greg Sheperd is starting his presentation on BIER - Bit Indexed Explicit Replication
14:44 < ripe506> hi
14:44 < lear> good afternoon
14:44 < teh-35425> Ay up
14:44 < ripe506> ok its find microphone was not working just listening
14:47 < shane> I find myself somehow swayed to this new technology.
14:47 < shane> But maybe I'm just thirsty.
14:47 < thinker> hello
14:47 < jelte> BIER. the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.
14:53 < ripe506> will users infraestructure support this technology?
14:54 < shane> It will when they buy new routers. 😉
14:54 < ripe506> well thats the issue also the IPV4 versus IPV6
14:54 < shane> @ripe506... it's not that bad, I think most infrastructure still supports IPv4, right? 😛
14:55 < ripe506> yes
14:55 < ripe506> but for the moment its not moving the ipv6
14:55 < Johan_RIPENCC> ripe506: do you want me to ask Greg this question later?
14:55 < ripe506> so much
14:55 < ripe506> yes please
14:55 < Johan_RIPENCC> ok
14:55 < ripe506> from spain..
14:56 < Johan_RIPENCC> ripe506: what’s your real name and affiliation?
14:56 < ripe506> cloudglobal france
14:56 < ripe506> inovatec.es
14:56 < ripe506> i am the ceo
14:59 < shane> bitmask sets... Proving again that every problem can be solved with another layer of indirection. 😛
14:59 < Johan_RIPENCC> shane: namespaces solve all problems…
15:00 < ripe506> will it be conflicts in the communication with other networks if this technology its not deployed
15:00 < ripe506> ?
15:01 < Johan_RIPENCC> ripe506: I will ask this question too
15:01 < ripe238> Video says "Greg Hankins". That's actuallyl Greg Shepherd.
15:01 < ripe506> what vendors are rooters ready for this technology
15:01 < ripe506> thanks
15:02 < Johan_RIPENCC> ripe506: there was a slide in the beginning with the 5 vendors that are working on this if I remember correctly
15:02 < amanda_ncc> Yeah, sorry about that. Too many Gregs 😛
15:02 < ripe506> can you send me the slides after by mail?
15:03 < vato-5607> already on-line
15:04 < ripe506> i mean nee networks
15:05 < ripe506> right
15:05 < ripe506> thnaks
15:05 < denesh> hi all
15:06 < amanda_ncc> Slides are online here btw: https://ripe70.ripe.net/archives/
15:07 < sps4-ripe> thanks amanda 🙂
15:07 < shane> So does that mean MTU must be the same for the whole BIER area?
15:07 < shane> Not clear to me...
15:08 < GPF> shane: just make it big
15:09 < AntonioPrado> video often freezes, is just me?
15:09 < Toshima-286> me too
15:09 < Johan_RIPENCC> Greg Shepherd ended his presentation
15:10 < shane> Oh yeah. Rate the talks!
15:10 < Johan_RIPENCC> ITSA: Internet Traffic Statistics Archive
15:10 < Johan_RIPENCC> Martijn Hoogesteger, University of Twente is starting his presentation
15:10 < shane> You can rate the talks on the meeting plan page: https://ripe70.ripe.net/programme/meeting-plan/plenary/
15:10 < shane> You need to sign in first.
15:10 < brian-1213>
15:11 -!- prt is now known as prt-8676
15:12 < teh-35425> brian-1213: all glory to the hypnocat: https://twitter.com/nopedial/status/597491683857735680
15:13 < dRk> http://rs1img.memecdn.com/ALL-HAIL-HYPNO-CORGI_o_38422.jpg
15:13 < prt-8676> Did someone mention a cat?
15:13 < teh-35425> prt-8676: I do not see teh cat, where is it?
15:15 < prt-8676> Cat is here (UK) with me ... ENOCAT in Amsterdam
15:16 < shane> Only 37% HTTP/HTTPS!
15:17 < Sjoerd_NCC> bittorrent might be the rest 😉
15:17 < vato-5607> BT is small
15:17 < keith_24865> wow, it's noisy at the back of the room here
15:17 < Johan_RIPENCC> netflix?
15:18 < sps4-ripe> Netflix should go to the local caches hopefully
15:18 < dRk> is Netflix available in .de and .cz?
15:19 < Toshima-286> Maybe RIPE should stream te plenary via Netflix. Should be working much better. ^^
15:20 < Habbie> dnsoarc streamed via youtube
15:20 < Habbie> which worked very well
15:20 < sps4-ripe> Toshima-286: you'd just end up with a pause saying "Are you still watching?"
15:20 < Habbie> i did the second day at home on the couch with the chromecast 😉
15:20 < Johan_RIPENCC> The presentation has ended
15:20 < prt-8676> I'm sure early bits of LINX were less than $1K 🙂
15:20 < Johan_RIPENCC> The 1000 Dollar Internet Exchange
15:20 < Johan_RIPENCC> Remco van Mook is starting now
15:20 < RWTH> dRk: it definitely is available in DE
15:21 < dRk> oh erm, I meant denmark
15:22 < TraXo> dRk: denmark got netflix too, yes
15:22 < Johan_RIPENCC> Netflix availability: https://help.netflix.com/en/node/14164
15:22 < dRk> I see
15:22 < sps4-ripe> dRk: is available, Wife is home watching Netflix I suspect
15:23 < davew-1213> Also DeiC and Cesnet are NRENs; it's possible that they have a different traffic profile than commercial ISPs.
15:24 < MartijnH> shane: 37% web traffic, and any other port accounts for less than 0.5% of traffic, pretty distributed!
15:24 < dRk> I guess so.
15:24 < dRk> Would be nice to see the distribution of v4 vs v6, in NRENs vs commercial ISPs
15:24 < MartijnH> davew-1213: Yes it's going to be interesting to see some other traffic as well 🙂
15:25 < shane> Yeah, it actually makes BitTorrent seem plausible, since it uses random ports right?
15:25 < dRk> shane: yes, and also possibly udp
15:25 < MartijnH> dRk: Yea, but it's harder to get commercial networks to cooperate in these kind of projects, sadly
15:25 < shane> Chart says 87% TCP...
15:25 < dRk> muTorrent has something called µUDP, right?
15:26 < dRk> shane: guess I wanted to say, it's hard to define 'bittorrent traffic'
15:27 < shane> @dKr: agreed. 🙂
15:27 < Sjoerd_NCC> and it's hard to tell what traffic is BT because more advanced clients encrypts it's protocol headers
15:27 < vato-5607> nice preso remco - kiss principle wins
15:28 -!- marita is now known as marita_RIPENCC
15:28 < MartijnH> Internet2's weekly reports did this, categorize the traffic.. I've decided not to, exactly because of those reasons 🙂
15:28 < dRk> makes sense indeed
15:29 < dfk> the first amsix was on yellow cable!
15:29 < dfk> at least the network it grew out of.
15:29 < dfk> nice lightning talk - very to-the-point